Comments on: A Different Kind of Catastrophe http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/ Telling The Truth Sun, 06 May 2012 20:44:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: james http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-6256 james Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:58:28 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-6256 that's some powerful stuff that’s some powerful stuff

]]> By: nick-ynysmon http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-4654 nick-ynysmon Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:24:13 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-4654 I am trying to get my mind around this excellent article. Now, returning to the august velikovsky, and also the work of Alan and Delain, 'cataclysm', It is mentioned that one of the effects of the passage of Phaeton, was the huge and I mean huge electric discharges, from the comet to the earth. This is mentioned explicitly in the records from that time. huge serpents dancing in the skies is the term used I believe. now, referring to the article above and assuming I don't misunderstand what is being aid, is it not possible that these plasma discharges, melting and vaporising the earth would be the cause of the Ignumbrites? I assume if such electric discharges happens the earth and its material would vaporise and the globules of molten matter would have some electric charge of its own, until the energy dissipated. Thus they would dance all over the place until the electric energy in them, becomes diffused, ---like water globules on a hot plate??? I am trying to get my mind around this excellent article.
Now, returning to the august velikovsky, and also the work of Alan and Delain, ‘cataclysm’, It is mentioned that one of the effects of the passage of Phaeton, was the huge and I mean huge electric discharges, from the comet to the earth. This is mentioned explicitly in the records from that time. huge serpents dancing in the skies is the term used I believe. now, referring to the article above and assuming I don’t misunderstand what is being aid, is it not possible that these plasma discharges, melting and vaporising the earth would be the cause of the Ignumbrites? I assume if such electric discharges happens the earth and its material would vaporise and the globules of molten matter would have some electric charge of its own, until the energy dissipated. Thus they would dance all over the place until the electric energy in them, becomes diffused, —like
water globules on a hot plate???

]]> By: nick-ynysmon http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-3900 nick-ynysmon Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:33:51 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-3900 forgive my additional comment but, is there not a possibility, that the comets are first not always fragmented, next they are not dirty snowballs, following Jim Maccanies work, and no doubt others. Then assuming comets are electrically charged bodies, and if they enter too close to the earths gravity well, and are pulled inwards, may we assume the plasma field in the comet will discharge into the earth, and could this not be cause for comets exploding such as Tunguska? That the huge discharge of energy from comet to earth may explosively disrupt the comet, before or after impact? comet comet forgive my additional comment but, is there not a possibility, that the comets are first not always fragmented, next they are not dirty snowballs, following Jim Maccanies work, and no doubt others. Then assuming comets are electrically charged bodies, and if they enter too close to the earths gravity well, and are pulled inwards, may we assume the plasma field in the comet will discharge into the earth, and could this not be cause for comets exploding such as Tunguska? That the huge discharge of energy from comet to earth may explosively disrupt the
comet, before or after impact?
comet comet

]]> By: nick-ynysmon http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-3899 nick-ynysmon Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:22:35 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-3899 I would just like to ask, have you read of Professor Jim Maccanies research and his hyothesis that comets and indeed all solar bodies are plasma /electric bodies, interacting with the magnetosphere of our own planet and the sun? I am studying your article and it is very interesting reading. But assuming comets are plasma bodies with intense electric-magnetic fields which I believe is true, and assuming the solar system is a charged plasma which makes sense to me, how would this affect your ideas on fragmented comets and such. I am studying this subject, with interest in planet X and velikovsky. I do believe the whole field is anything but homogeneous and over the past millenia let alone millions of years all sorts of disparate events must have fashioned the world we live on. The universe is a very turbulent place. I would just like to ask, have you read of Professor Jim Maccanies research and his hyothesis that comets and indeed all solar bodies are plasma /electric bodies, interacting with the magnetosphere of our own planet and the sun?
I am studying your article and it is very interesting reading. But assuming comets are plasma bodies with intense electric-magnetic fields which I believe is true, and assuming the solar system is a charged plasma which makes sense to me, how would this affect your ideas on fragmented comets and such.
I am studying this subject, with interest in planet X and velikovsky. I do believe the whole field is anything but homogeneous and over the past millenia let alone millions of years all sorts of disparate events must have fashioned the world we live on. The universe is a very turbulent place.

]]> By: Dennis Cox http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-3815 Dennis Cox Wed, 19 May 2010 15:40:52 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-3815 Ok, let's turn it up a notch. The fact that the Younger Dryas cooling was caused by the impact of a giant, fragmented, comet, (probably the Taurid progenitor) and that it was a mass extinction level, multiple airburst, thermal atmospheric, geo-ablative, impact event that sculpted whole mountain ranges like wax under a blowtorch, can be proven conclusively. The proof is in hand in the form of non-volcanogenic, ignimbrite.(literally, 'fire cloud rock') The pristine thermal glaze on the outer surface is in perfect condition. And the glaze is as magnetic as any meteorite. The source location for the samples has all of the rock forms you would only expect to find in an impact crater. I.e. impact melt, mega-breccias, etc. But it isn't shaped like a hole in the ground. And it isn't a crater. It is an ablated mountain. And the samples consist of geo-ablative blast melt. I'll be happy to provide samples of some of the damnedest impact breccia/melt you've ever seen to any interested scientists. See, http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/the-planetary-scaring-of-the-younger-dryas-impact-event/california-melt/ for more info. ~Dennis Cox Ok, let’s turn it up a notch.

The fact that the Younger Dryas cooling was caused by the impact of a giant, fragmented, comet, (probably the Taurid progenitor) and that it was a mass extinction level, multiple airburst, thermal atmospheric, geo-ablative, impact event that sculpted whole mountain ranges like wax under a blowtorch, can be proven conclusively.

The proof is in hand in the form of non-volcanogenic, ignimbrite.(literally, ‘fire cloud rock’) The pristine thermal glaze on the outer surface is in perfect condition. And the glaze is as magnetic as any meteorite.

The source location for the samples has all of the rock forms you would only expect to find in an impact crater. I.e. impact melt, mega-breccias, etc. But it isn’t shaped like a hole in the ground. And it isn’t a crater. It is an ablated mountain. And the samples consist of geo-ablative blast melt.

I’ll be happy to provide samples of some of the damnedest impact breccia/melt you’ve ever seen to any interested scientists.
See, http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/the-planetary-scaring-of-the-younger-dryas-impact-event/california-melt/ for more info.

~Dennis Cox

]]> By: Paleolithic Extinctions http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-3568 Paleolithic Extinctions Sun, 04 Apr 2010 17:36:36 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-3568 [...] and Napier : The Cause of the Megafaunal Extinction: Supernova or Galactic Core Outburst? A Diffierent Kind of Catastrophe Good stuff -- if you like that sort of thing : [...] [...] and Napier : The Cause of the Megafaunal Extinction: Supernova or Galactic Core Outburst? A Diffierent Kind of Catastrophe Good stuff — if you like that sort of thing : [...]

]]> By: Dennis Cox http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-2214 Dennis Cox Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:48:43 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-2214 This event broke all of the rules. Depending on the strength of the surface,the square craters can be found as anything from just a wierd square shaped blast burn to something that excavated a crater. So their shape isn't a product of erosion. It has to do with the composition of the impactor. And its process of detonation. In the past, all of our knowledge regarding impact research was based on the assumption that the bolide is going to be a solid rock, or a chunk of nickel iron, or ices of varying chemistry. And untill E.M Drobyshevski's work.(Tunguska, and similar events in light of the New Explosive Cosmogony of minor bodies) no one has considered that those ices could could themselves be as unstable, and reactive, as poorly made hydrogen peroxide rocket fuel. The old way of imagining the impact of a comet was to think of it as a single chunk hitting like an asteroid. But we have many recent studies of short period comets that show us how unstable they are. And we now know that we can expect them to be already fragmented into a cloud of pieces ranging from the size of a sand grain to the size of an apartment building. Don't think bullet. Think shotgun blast. When such a cloud of fragments hits, the ground doesn't get pounded, and beaten, into a crater, or craters. It's much nastier than that. Almost all of the material detonates above ground. Resultant wind speeds are well beyond huricane force, and gusting to supersonic. And the heat of those gusts is hotter than the surface of the sun. The ground gets melted, and blown away like butter from a blowtorch. And the resulting melt gets whipped like the froth on a stormy beach. (Images clickable) <a href="http://tmgnow.com/IMAGES/Fresnom5.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://tmgnow.com/IMAGES/Fresnom5THMB.jpg" alt="scatter field 1" /></a><a href="http://tmgnow.com/IMAGES/Fresnom6.jpg" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://tmgnow.com/IMAGES/Fresnom5THMB.jpg" alt="scatter field 1" /></a> This event broke all of the rules. Depending on the strength of the surface,the square craters can be found as anything from just a wierd square shaped blast burn to something that excavated a crater. So their shape isn’t a product of erosion. It has to do with the composition of the impactor. And its process of detonation.

In the past, all of our knowledge regarding impact research was based on the assumption that the bolide is going to be a solid rock, or a chunk of nickel iron, or ices of varying chemistry. And untill E.M Drobyshevski’s work.(Tunguska, and similar events in light of the New Explosive Cosmogony of minor bodies) no one has considered that those ices could could themselves be as unstable, and reactive, as poorly made hydrogen peroxide rocket fuel.

The old way of imagining the impact of a comet was to think of it as a single chunk hitting like an asteroid. But we have many recent studies of short period comets that show us how unstable they are. And we now know that we can expect them to be already fragmented into a cloud of pieces ranging from the size of a sand grain to the size of an apartment building. Don’t think bullet. Think shotgun blast.

When such a cloud of fragments hits, the ground doesn’t get pounded, and beaten, into a crater, or craters. It’s much nastier than that. Almost all of the material detonates above ground. Resultant wind speeds are well beyond huricane force, and gusting to supersonic. And the heat of those gusts is hotter than the surface of the sun. The ground gets melted, and blown away like butter from a blowtorch. And the resulting melt gets whipped like the froth on a stormy beach. (Images clickable)
scatter field 1scatter field 1

]]> By: garydgoodwin http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-2213 garydgoodwin Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:31:45 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-2213 Thanx James for the comment! Do I know Velikovsky???? Click on the "about" tab and read my story! I don't think I'd be writing any of this, if I hadn't picked up "Worlds in Collision". Thank you for reading! Thanx James for the comment! Do I know Velikovsky???? Click on the “about” tab and read my story! I don’t think I’d be writing any of this, if I hadn’t picked up “Worlds in Collision”. Thank you for reading!

]]> By: James Butler http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-2212 James Butler Sat, 06 Feb 2010 12:10:56 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-2212 Hi, Enjoyed the read, I am wondering if you, Dennis, or Gary, have read any of the work by Immanuel Velikovsky, several books published on Catastrophism and myths in various cultures. When Velikovsky wrote up his research the scientific fraternity came down on him like a ton of bricks, and tried to stop his books being published. Now his research is being validated, check it out. Regards James, down under in the Land of Oz! Hi,

Enjoyed the read, I am wondering if you, Dennis, or Gary, have read any of the work by Immanuel Velikovsky, several books published on Catastrophism and myths in various cultures. When Velikovsky wrote up his research the scientific fraternity came down on him like a ton of bricks, and tried to stop his books being published. Now his research is being validated, check it out.

Regards James, down under in the Land of Oz!

]]> By: Steve http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/2009/12/28/a-different-kind-of-catastrophe/#comment-2206 Steve Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:38:12 +0000 http://tmgnow.com/TMG1/?p=240#comment-2206 It seems to me that the initial angle of impact would determine the crater shape, either circular or oblong. The greater the angle, the more oblong the crater. Over time, erosion/degradation from wind and rain would "even out" the edges, and the oblong craters would become more square in shape. The sharper the square, the older the event. Just my two cents... It seems to me that the initial angle of impact would determine the crater shape, either circular or oblong. The greater the angle, the more oblong the crater. Over time, erosion/degradation from wind and rain would “even out” the edges, and the oblong craters would become more square in shape. The sharper the square, the older the event.

Just my two cents…

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